tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post4073798907389657581..comments2023-11-18T08:59:54.598+00:00Comments on Carmarthenshire Planning Problems and more: Caebrwyn Arrested, Part Twocaebrwynhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17233902574832152764noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post-57233466390304166682013-07-19T21:33:02.714+01:002013-07-19T21:33:02.714+01:00Hi Caebrwyn
I very seriously think you should be ...Hi Caebrwyn<br /><br />I very seriously think you should be proceeding with a private prosecution against the police and you should have more than ample evidence to secure a conviction.<br /><br />You may not want to do this and let it go, consider the others who will suffer from arbitrary arrest if this kind of police misfeasance continues to go on unchallenged ?<br /><br />Info on how to do it on below link<br /><br />http://info.fmotl.com/ <br /><br />Other than that well done you are a star. Big Love<br /><br />Gelhi De Demetae, St TeiloAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post-18128638361402322342011-06-15T22:39:50.726+01:002011-06-15T22:39:50.726+01:00In fairness, I'm not sure the 'rozzers'...In fairness, I'm not sure the 'rozzers' as are culpable for this farrago as the 'Council'. Not a copper myself, but cannot help thinking that if the Council, who pay their 'precept', get on the 'dog and bone' they have to be seen to respond. <br /><br />And once they do, they have to comply with a load of bureaucracy, which probably explains why they are always tied up on trivial complaints and petty crime, and cannot 'stand back' to focus their efforts on the catching real career criminals. <br /><br />Read 'Wasting Police Time' by PC David Copperfield. <br /><br />http://www.mondaybooks.com/policetime/policetime.html<br /><br />I spent a few hours reading this last Christmas while back in Carmarthenshire for the festivities... A bit of an eye-opener.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post-59776263421863401682011-06-13T21:31:41.177+01:002011-06-13T21:31:41.177+01:00jacqui the brave
In a room full of powerful knaves...jacqui the brave<br />In a room full of powerful knaves<br />Freedom of image and lip<br />the suited irredactible blip<br />of old ways set in a rut<br />rejecting the bloggers cut<br />rejecting everything but James terse<br />unelected verse<br />of Mark and arrest<br />an innocent voices crestriddlerwaleshttp://riddlerwales.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post-2611772326099550652011-06-13T16:06:30.547+01:002011-06-13T16:06:30.547+01:00Good to see this has been featured on the BBC news...Good to see this has been featured on the BBC news site:-http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-13748970.<br /><br />The agreement you signed was "under duress" - therefore you are not bound by it. BTW - I'd be willing to come along at some pre-arranged date & time to take part in a mass filming of the council meetings (which would probably requiring the recruiting of police from neighbouring forces - if 1 woman requires 4 officers!)Tessanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post-43878617639961419582011-06-13T14:15:31.767+01:002011-06-13T14:15:31.767+01:00Sorry to read of your awful experience.
I was las...Sorry to read of your awful experience.<br /><br />I was last in the gallery for the care homes vote earlier this year. The Cllrs. seemed less than pleased to have the public listening in.<br /><br />Hope that the national media coverage helps change attitudes at County Hall.Ryan Thomashttp://ryanmthomas.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post-2921658811110730832011-06-13T13:40:11.129+01:002011-06-13T13:40:11.129+01:00I hope the fire under this is maintained.
We have...I hope the fire under this is maintained.<br /><br />We have similar high handedness in Wiltshire and I suspect that a large number of incidents occur across the country.<br /><br />It is one thing to disrupt a meeting, quite another to behave as in this case.<br /><br />These gents and ladies need to be reminded that they are public servants and not autocratic government. Local councillors have a well deserved reputation for being venal, conceited, incompetent halfwits - and here they just add wood to the fire - ably assisted by their executive and bouncers. <br /><br />The only way out of this is public finance meltdown.<br /><br />Be warned - one of the results of Labour's 13 years meddling is the confluence of Police and local councils - here you are seeing a small taster of what that will end up being like.Gordon the Fence Post Tortoisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04426735271858751220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post-48897884229764035782011-06-13T12:43:37.839+01:002011-06-13T12:43:37.839+01:00As a fellow blogger, though not in any way a polit...As a fellow blogger, though not in any way a political blog, I have on occasion come up against the the local council and their rules. I have often thought that councils and the police have lost all common sense. What happened to you was very wrong and I think as a layman you would have a pretty good case for wrongful arrest and detention. The police should I think always act with discretion and not on behalf of the executive (council in this case). Paul at <a href="http://www.yorkshiredailyphoto.com" rel="nofollow">Leeds daily photo</a>Leeds daily photohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18240127660481382397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post-20839397847041889062011-06-13T07:34:58.470+01:002011-06-13T07:34:58.470+01:00So, now the police have dropped the case, knowing ...So, now the police have dropped the case, knowing it had as much chance of reaching court as a plateful of cold mashed potato, here is a question for Carmarthenshire, given tehre was no "interruption" or "disturbance" brought about by Ms. Thompson herself:<br /><br />What part of the standing order, precisely, did Ms. Thompson breach? What was she alleged to be doing, and what rule - the precise wording - disallows it?<br /><br />Annoying, pedantic blogger questions, or insitence on proper accountability in a modern democracy?Photonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10137649851898638015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post-28679804702770034552011-06-12T18:04:50.515+01:002011-06-12T18:04:50.515+01:00http://www.yourrights.org.uk/yourrights/the-right-...http://www.yourrights.org.uk/yourrights/the-right-of-peaceful-protest/other-police-powers-to-restrict-right-to-protest.html<br /><br />See "Powers to Prevent a Breach of the Peace"<br />Looks like Carmarthenshire County Soviet and their Heddlu lapdogs have got their work cut out for them. I hope they learn a lesson! Show them how Caebrwyn!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post-30835716107356426232011-06-12T16:20:45.184+01:002011-06-12T16:20:45.184+01:00Outrageous behaviour. I hope you take them all to ...Outrageous behaviour. I hope you take them all to the cleaners.Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03710776765139258627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post-30643559712887571822011-06-11T20:40:03.870+01:002011-06-11T20:40:03.870+01:00Hi Jacqui,
This is absolutely outrageous behaviou...Hi Jacqui,<br /><br />This is absolutely outrageous behaviour from the council. Have joined your followers in support and am encouraging others to do the same.Juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06174792040950067339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post-22902742208884663612011-06-11T19:05:17.760+01:002011-06-11T19:05:17.760+01:00Rhys raises an interesting point. If you listen ca...Rhys raises an interesting point. If you listen carefully to the clip in which Cllr Palmer complains about being filmed, you will hear her say that you need permission to photograph children - presumably a reference to Child Protection legislation.<br /><br />A bit odd, until you remember that Cllr Palmer is cabinet member responsible for, among other things, Youth Services.<br /><br />What Cllr Palmer seems to have forgotten is that there is a world of difference between children and county councillors who put themselves forward for election and public office (she is on £30,000+ in allowances, expenses, etc.). If she doesn't like public attention, she should stand down.<br /><br />Or perhaps she was suggesting that people wishing to film councillors should get the permission of their parents? That might be difficult, seeing that a large proportion are in their 70s or even 80s.<br /><br />Oh, and one other thing. Cllr Palmer's portfolio of responsibilities includes "Modernising Local Government". Nuff said.Gwilymnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post-9771794910573707442011-06-11T10:18:28.418+01:002011-06-11T10:18:28.418+01:00Democracy. Transparency. Honesty. Integrity. Openn...Democracy. Transparency. Honesty. Integrity. Openness. These are virtues we are entitled to expect from our council, it's employees and councillors, which we pay for. These are not part of this councils agenda under the rule of Mark James. Cll. Palmer should be ashamed of herself for taking such a stance which is the antithesis of democracy. Unfortunately, looking at this film footage, Cll. Palmer looks very near to retirement age. Maybe that's part of the problem. We need young blood not old folks/members that are completely out of touch!Rhysnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post-44315835920350165702011-06-11T09:04:28.286+01:002011-06-11T09:04:28.286+01:00I'd also be happy to contribute to any fightin...I'd also be happy to contribute to any fighting fund. Also happy to run an appeal for more on the Photon blog.Photonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10137649851898638015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post-75486606166145065352011-06-11T08:20:16.508+01:002011-06-11T08:20:16.508+01:00I'm sure dear old Mark hates to think of himse...I'm sure dear old Mark hates to think of himself as a public servant, but that is precisely what he is. Non-elected, but salary paid by the public. He is supposed to listen to the public's wishes.. It is clear that the public wish for filming of his public meetings. He should take that on board. He is not our dictator, yet!<br />Perhaps he should allow a referendum on it. Mark, bless you, do listen, the public wish for your meetings to be filmed so that we have transparency. You, on the other wish to keep your dealings under wraps. You should be flexible and bend to public opinion. My god, that would be a first!Interestednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post-88639376202102800292011-06-11T07:06:09.468+01:002011-06-11T07:06:09.468+01:00As for all the comments on filming vs minutes, fra...As for all the comments on filming vs minutes, frankly, get with the times!! Minutes are NOT accessible to the people. She is filming it so she can spread the message more widely and easily. Seriously, the council are PUBLIC officials - if they don't like being in public then why are they putting themselves up for election?<br /><br />You should take them to court. We have a strong rule of law to keep idiots like this in check. If you want to go that route I will contribute to your legal costs. I don;t have much but I could probably give you £150.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post-36738866756431931702011-06-10T19:47:12.695+01:002011-06-10T19:47:12.695+01:00"Thanks for further comments including the cr..."Thanks for further comments including the critical ones, all opinions are appreciated."<br /><br />Apologies for the very blunt way in which I made my earlier comment Caebrwyn. Glad to see you are big enough to take criticism on the chin. Good luck with your campaign.Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08240399669150057121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post-30413800289130004152011-06-10T19:35:10.017+01:002011-06-10T19:35:10.017+01:00Bedd Gelert
Most dirty dealings are probably carr...Bedd Gelert<br /><br />Most dirty dealings are probably carried out by using funny handshakes behind lodge doors, but in one planning case I happen to be very in tune with, the corruption is blatantly evident, and when the time is right it will be exposed, publicly! The officers and members who have abused their positions will also be named and shamed! You're right, we have a rotten council.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post-61526739367563632532011-06-10T18:36:30.542+01:002011-06-10T18:36:30.542+01:00AS a Carmarthen boy 'born and bred' it is ...AS a Carmarthen boy 'born and bred' it is about bloody time that someone stood up to the 'Mafia of the Mediocre' that is Carmarthen Council !!! <br /><br />The 'skeletons in the cupboard' they have over things like the 'National Botanic Gardens of Wales' and the greasing of palms over decades and generations of planning decisions would make a TV series to rival 'Our Friends In the North'. <br /><br />Of course most decisions of 'planning' can never be filmed as they will be done over a few drinks, or on a golf course or in the secrecy of a meeting of the 'Funny Handshake Brigade'. <br /><br />Let the Twitterati and Bloggerati fight back !!Bedd Gelertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post-39349838341310095372011-06-10T18:32:18.527+01:002011-06-10T18:32:18.527+01:00This is a very interesting issue. And clearly the ...This is a very interesting issue. And clearly the council in this case has no prohibition on "filmT(Technically, of course, it isn't filming anyway)RIchard Sletzernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post-23656710694771953962011-06-10T17:33:24.724+01:002011-06-10T17:33:24.724+01:00So this Welsh council thinks it has the powers to ...So this Welsh council thinks it has the powers to hide the truth?<br />Sounds just like Wrexham council with its undemocratic decision to go for City status, costing £20k+, but clossing a disabled facility some months beforehand to do it, regardless of what anyone says.<br />Or its decision to discriminate against large disabled families and bin collection, causing rat infestation that the same council say is not a health problem.<br />You do right by exposing this council and now its happened once will be done with better cameras and secretly, It could catch on and councils could move to hold all meetings in private.Yachyddanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post-78247463017398546962011-06-10T16:41:08.828+01:002011-06-10T16:41:08.828+01:00Well, Anonymous, or may I call you Mark? The 1972 ...Well, Anonymous, or may I call you Mark? The 1972 Act says that nothing in that section shall require councils to allow the taking of photographs, etc. That means it is up to the councils to decide whether they allow photography, etc., or not. If they decide to ban the recording of meetings, then plain common sense says they must pass a relevant resolution, etc. Underpinning the rule of law is the assumption that if something is not forbidden by law, it must therefore be legal. Arresting someone for something which is not illegal is the arbitrary exercise of power, and thank God, illegal.<br /><br />As for disrupting the democratic process, I do not know which video clips you have been watching, but in no sense was Caebrwyn disrupting the meeting.Richardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post-55252270003320127872011-06-10T16:12:46.448+01:002011-06-10T16:12:46.448+01:00The Llandeilo police once assited my then-landlord...The Llandeilo police once assited my then-landlord in extorting money out of me by forcing me to go away with him alone where he could block my escape,under the guise of showingme how he had fixed the water damaged caused by an overflow from the flat aove me. I knew he was a big man in the community; Checking the coucillor list, he may be on it -but it's avery common Welsh name,so hard to be sure 10 year later.@the_crazy_dwarfhttp://twitter.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post-24443826937525214812011-06-10T15:54:08.487+01:002011-06-10T15:54:08.487+01:00To the anonymous comment at 14:14
You have provi...To the anonymous comment at 14:14 <br /><br />You have provided a link to a piece of legislation that appears to relate to the issue raised, however on closer inspection, the legislation is not particulary relevant.<br /><br />The legislation relates (in laymans terms) to what the council are duty bound to do with respect to meetings. In other words the legislation states that the council do not have to make recordings etc of the meeting for the benefit of people who cannot attend.<br /><br />The legislation does not state that it is against the law for a member of the public to make a recording. <br /><br />Just to substantiate this point - if it were against the law to film council meetings then how would the councils that are transparent enough to film their meetings (themselves) get away with it? <br /><br />If the council are relying on this 'legislation' to justify the arrest of this lady, then I'm afraid the council are very wrongAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-791817892794754996.post-50227402738556602272011-06-10T15:48:40.617+01:002011-06-10T15:48:40.617+01:00Thanks for further comments including the critical...Thanks for further comments including the critical ones, all opinions are appreciated.caebrwynhttp://www.carmarthenplanning.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com